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[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: We are live. Alright. We are back in the senate judiciary. It's February 5. We have SR 21 and we have Mike Chernick from lunch council. We have two rather small changes. One's grammatical and one
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: is substantive. Good morning, members of the committee, both live and we are in online. Michael Sherman, legislative counsel, I was requested with respect to SR 21, which is the Senate resolution, Windham resolution regarding ICE's operation Metro surge in the state of Minnesota, I was asked to make two changes. They are on one page, but I should explain they're totally divisible. And you can be voting on them separately. Even though they are on one page, they're coming from the same source. The first one is a substantive one. In the second result clause, inserting in lieu thereof the following, which is just how the clause would now read That the senate of the state of Vermont based on initial and substantive evidence, which is a new a new language that senator Baruth requested, unequivocally condemns the extraditional killings of Renee Goode and Alex Petrie as as grave violations of human dignity, civil liberties, and the constitutional protections owed to all persons, and the only language is based on initial and substantial evidence. The balance of it is the same as you've seen previously. Now that's number one. The second one is a purely grammatical change. If you go down in the clause to the penultimate line, nor employing legal forces, I had it earlier employed legal forces, but the substance is totally the change. It's just a grammar issue that Senator Baruth talked about. Excellent. And that is it. Everything else in the document remains the way you've
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: seen it already. Fantastic. Any any questions or comments or notes?
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: This is this is fine. Thank you, Michael. Should we have maybe done a strike off?
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: Or May I comment on that Please do. Early procedural. Please do. I know I sometimes do, but I also know in the senate that the secretary of the senate has indicated to our office repeatedly that if we can do it in a more minimal basis, he has a preference for that. I believe and that's why I did it this way. Gotcha. Yes. I did think of redoing the whole thing. Absolutely. And then I was reminded of the senate secretary's preference from point. As it is, he might have senate secretary might have preferred that I just literally say line two of the second result, but I thought that was going a little bit too far that you at least need to see the entire clause. And so this is why I came out the way I did. And I think that when if
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: we get it presented, we can also just get copies of both of these to folks so that they can actually
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: The original document is still the original document is still available on the system. It can easily be distributed, or you could also make reference back to its original appearance in the in the journal. Yeah.
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: I was just thinking yesterday's resolution, that was a struggle. Yeah.
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: Technicality. Yeah. But that was why I did what I did. Yeah. I definitely thought about it. Definitely thought about it. Yeah.
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: Any other questions or comments? No? Okay. Alright. Well, I would entertain a motion to vote this out in favor of vote.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: On the amendment? Is that in the bill?
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: On the amendment. So so we'll be voting on the amendment and then the underlying Mr. White, you need to vote on the amendment, you
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: need to vote on the resolution itself. As amended.
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: So I saw a motion by Phil to vote on the amendment favorably.
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: Senator, if I may, you have two amendments. So it should be either on the amendments or separate votes. So when you decide, but there are two amendments.
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: I I thought that would be if they are
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: It might be just
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: The buyer.
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: To be clear that you're voting on
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: two amendments. Really Yes. On both. Yeah. Thank you. So voting on both of these amendments simultaneously.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: It's one amendment with two instances. Right?
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: Well, it's technically two there are two instances. Correct. But you just to be clear You vote your in your motion that you're voting on both instances.
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: Does everybody understand real clear? Alright. Please call away.
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: This is your minimum? Yeah.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: Did anyone make a motion?
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: Philip made. Okay.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: Senator Baruth? Yes. Senator Mattos? Yes. Senator Norris?
[Sen. Robert Norris (Vice Chair)]: Yes.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: Senator Bihovsky?
[Sen. Tanya Vyhovsky (Member)]: Yes.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: Senator Hashim?
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: Yes. Five zero zero. Zero.
[Sen. Robert Norris (Vice Chair)]: I know you told that wrong.
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: Alright. And so we've amended the resolution with two instances of amendment, and now we're voting on the resolution with those two instances added. So I would entertain a motion to vote the amended resolution out in favor with Moved by senator Any discussion? I
[Sen. Robert Norris (Vice Chair)]: just agree with you on a state that I will be voting against this, I'll explain this in my vote and all on
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: the floor with explanation. No. Any further discussion? Okay. Please call the roll.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: I'm going to do it in my normal way now. Senator Norris? No. Senator Baruth?
[Sen. Philip Baruth (Member)]: Yes.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: Senator Matos? Yes. Senator Vyhovsky?
[Sen. Tanya Vyhovsky (Member)]: Yes.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: Senator Hashim? Yes. Four one zero. Great. Thank you, Mike.
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: You're very welcome.
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: Thank you, Mike. Nice. Who wants to report this?
[Sen. Tanya Vyhovsky (Member)]: Isn't it your resolution?
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: Is it my resolute it is? Yeah. But I'm asking if anybody else wants to. If if there's anybody with a burning desire, I saw Phil, you know
[Sen. Robert Norris (Vice Chair)]: I would I would be happy to do it unless the sponsor wants to do
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: I'm happy to provide that opportunity for you. Alright. Will do.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: Senator Baruth?
[Sen. Robert Norris (Vice Chair)]: Obviously, I can't take it upstairs, so somebody needs to do that piece.
[Andy (Committee Assistant)]: I can do that.
[Sen. Robert Norris (Vice Chair)]: Thanks, Andy. We
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: have an two zero eight.
[Sen. Tanya Vyhovsky (Member)]: I will say, I know yesterday we had some conversation about this potentially becoming a moot point. I have since spoken to some of my friends who serve in the Minnesota legislature, not a moot point. You know, they have on multiple points said that they would withdraw some of the folks there, but even if they did follow through and withdraw the 700, they said there would still be more than 2,000 ICE agents on the ground in Minneapolis. So I think it is good that we are moving forward, and I don't think it is a moot point.
[Sen. Nader Hashim (Chair)]: Very good. So next up, we'll have it'll be eleven. Dave Hartman coming in to discuss the budget request. Thought they were gonna be coming in for prop four, but we'll clarify that when we get there. So we'll be back at eleven.
[Michael Sherman (Legislative Counsel)]: And we can go off.