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[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: Oh, here we are on ways and means. We are looking at h nine twenty one, actually leading to alcoholic beverages. We heard from Ted Barnett already, and now we're hearing from Tucker Anderson. Floor is yours, sir.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: Well, good afternoon, Tucker Anderson, legislative counsel. You should have in front of you h nine twenty one. I was just doing a quick scan of the bill and couldn't actually figure out why.

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: I know why.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: And I suspect it's because of a change to the way that one type of permit can be paid. It removed the requirement that it's paid by certified check. What I'll do is I'll give you the

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: Okay, that is it. Let's let's go on through it.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: 50,000 foot view here. So first, a change to the term length of members of the board of liquor and lottery in section one from three year to four year terms. In the fourth class licensing section of title seven, there are some changes to the volume of alcoholic beverages that can be served as samples depending on the location. And, specifically, it's adjusted for tasting rooms and retail shops. Later on in that section, there are some changes to how in state manufacturers can share alcoholic beverages between their retail locations, so allowing those retail tasting locations to serve alcoholic beverages from other in state manufacturers. And that is not an increase in the license numbers that may be issued here. It is an increase in the number of already licensed manufacturers that you can serve products from at your location, which also might be the reason that this was sent here. In the third section, it repeals very specific hours of sale for a type of permit that licensees can get, and it defaults back to the general hours of sale depending on the underlying license. In section four, it's a conforming amendment for the definition of special event permits, which require approval from the local control commissioners. This is just ensuring that that's also in the statute for that permit, not just in the definition. The notice period for retail tasting permits is changed in the next section to one business day. There's a two year period here where manufacturers of malt beverages are going to be allowed to directly distribute to first and third class licensees not more than 3,000 barrels of their malt beverages per year.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: Is this expanding their authority to allow them to do this and then limiting it to 3,000 barrels, or it's limiting the authority they already have to 3,000 barrels?

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: It's giving them the new authority to do this and capping the volume that they're allowed to directly distribute at 3,000 barrels. Okay. And why is the wording in that next section exactly the same? Because Section seven is in the future. In 2028, Section seven will take effect, and it will repeal this authority. So that's the sunset. Sorry, this is germane to our committee, but is this perspective that imagine that two years from now, then the committee will come back to see how it went? Is that the idea? That is how this is operated in the alcoholic beverage space for all of the other pilots that they've done, including retail alcoholic beverages to go and the delivery of certain cocktails from first and third class licensees with food, things like that. Those programs were initially established as one and then two year pilots and then eventually codified.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: It's so funny because I I mean, I remember how, what a big deal that was during the pandemic, and then I remember making it permanent, and no one does it. I never see anyone doing it anymore or talking about

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: it or restaurants even seeming to know about it. Continue, sorry.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: Yeah.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: See you sometimes. You just have to order your food online. Can't do that. Section eight removes the certified check requirement for the solicitor's license. And the next section deletes a 2026 sunset of the expansion of the special venue serving permit to include retail establishments. So this is an example of one of those two year pilots that is now being codified. I think that's the one. Here it is.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: As if the sunset had taken effect, then we wouldn't have it

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: on the new sunset permit anymore.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: You would still have revenue from the permit just from fewer permitting? Yes.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: Yes. Okay.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: Got it. Alright. And then the effective dates.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: Any questions, anyone?

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: Easy peasy. Thanks, Tucker. Thank you all. Sorry that I made you waste.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: You did not make us wait, Tucker. Thank you very much for your time. Representative Kimbell moves that we find H nine twenty one favorable.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: Second.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: Oh, rep. Representative Infield seconds. Any discussion?

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: Seeing none, if the clerk could please call the roll. Representative Branagan? Yes. I'll vote yes. Is Representative Burkhardt? Representative Higley? Yes. Representative Holcombe? Yes. Representative Kimbell?

[Charles Kimbell (Ranking Member)]: Yes.

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: Representative Masland? Yes. Representative Ode? Yes. Representative Page?

[Woodman Page (Member)]: Yes. Representative Waszazak? Yes. Representative Canfield?

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: Yes.

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: And Representative Kornheiser? Yes. You found a bill favorable eleven-zero-zero. Thank you.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: Sure.

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: Rep. Sam Burkhardt, you haven't reported anything in Latin on this one? Sure. I have two hands down.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: Oh, you do?

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: The hell of a of them. Your little ones are hanging

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: in front.

[Bridget Burkhardt (Clerk)]: But that's okay. I'm back to the knees. Okay, thanks.

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: You, everyone, for a really very productive and kind of fun week. Been a good week, right? Yeah. Next week is going to be a roller coaster. And we're going to be getting our work done while all the other committees are just feeling free of birds. So encourage you to take a look at the committees that are yours over the weekend and see what they voted out today so we can be prepared for next week. See you on Tuesday.

[Tucker Anderson (Legislative Counsel)]: So over the list? Everybody in The United States?

[Emilie Kornheiser (Chair)]: Not really. Yeah. Oh, the list of who has what? Represent Branagan. You would look at the health care committee. Represented Burkhardt, that's Commerce. Representative Higley, GovOps. Representative Holcombe, Education. Representative Kimbell, Energy and Ag. Representative Masland, Judiciary. Representative Ode, Human Services. Representative Page, Environment. Plaza Act, General and Housing and Institutions Representative Canfield, Transportation I have appropriations, which means I don't get billed support.