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[Beth Quimby (Member)]: We are live.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: This is House Education. March 19, the committee has reconvened probably somewhat briefly, but to follow-up on the two amendments that we just had presented to us. If the committee is okay with the following process, I would like to oppose this. We aren't required to vote on these amendments right now. I would like to delay action on 09:30 for one legislative day. A couple of members have volunteered to work with the proposes of the amendments to find out some language. Think I think everybody has been rushed here. I think that that the members who proposed the amendments had very short amount of time to get this before us. So anyway, we'd like a chance to we'd like twenty four hours to kind of work on some new language that might be. Meaningful to all of us. I think that would be a great way to go. Everybody okay with that? Absolutely. Alright. Great. Thank you. Thank you both very much.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: You.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: Thank you. Okay, we have all been handed our outline and assignment. Yes. Okay, so Rob, you go to Labor one legislative day. Oh, I have a follow-up question to that. What then becomes my
[Robert Hunter (Member)]: responsibility with the amendment? If if if, let's say,
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: they pass and so Okay. So if we had so for today, all you're gonna do is ask for let the speaker, I move we delay action on H nine thirty one website a day. That's how you gotta keep And she'll know that. But you're not doing rec, so she'll call on you. Then if we can put together an amendment that works for everybody and we all vote for it, one of them will present the amendment.
[Robert Hunter (Member)]: Then she'll call me. I'd stand and say
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: The committee Commissioner Strovich. That would be as much support committees. Because it's about the amendments that are already on account. They drop amendments and alternative Exactly. Yes. Don't need to
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: worry about that. So we know what we're
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: going write. I think there's a wall of paper at the back
[Robert Hunter (Member)]: of your head and you need to stand up.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: But you do it every day. Yeah. You know, I think I think it'd be okay today to think something like Madam Speaker, we, you know, appreciate the amendments and the thought behind him. We would like to work with the members to We've had some amendments put forth and we would like one Well, will already pull their amendments. They'll Oh, okay. Okay. But you can but you can say why that we want that our attention
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: We can just double check. Think delaying one day doesn't necessarily mean there has to be
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: a process to that. I'm not sure what you said is that. I will I will email the both of them just to remind them about the process. They they will need to withdraw their amendments.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: Do they need to? Amendments won't even come up today if we delay. They won't need to withdraw their amendments. Right. Got it. They won't even come up saying I need to say we need to delay. There's delaying action on. Perfect. Alright. Until the next day, they'll pull them and have a new amendment. We'll need to do
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: the deal. Alright. Yeah. Great.
[Robert Hunter (Member)]: I will cross that bridge
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: on the back.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: Cross the bridge when you get remember tomorrow's Friday. So Yes. Sounds nice. Yeah. We're on the floor. This is all I'm
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: trying to remember. A big to try to figure out.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: Need some
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: think. Maybe we should take a moment to sort of talk about the amendments and how the committee feels that we might best solve them. Or why don't we wait and get some language in front of us tomorrow after working with them? Great. Right, so we have got I think Beth did a great job today of providing us with sort of a baseline. I think that everybody should spend some time looking at this, scribbling notes, giving thoughts. Act 46 was a procedure for the times. We're in different times, perhaps a little bit of a different urgency. I would say there are timing issues we're gonna have to work out as we go through this. You can't instantly have a visa with a paid executive director without figuring out funding all of that. So there may be you know, we may need to say, well, let's get these study committee facilitators in place sooner than that. We'll have to figure out a way to do that, And this will include money. And we're gonna get some testimony today on some cost estimates. But these are all the other things to think about besides what's here. Yes, Beth.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: Can we get the facilitate so we could I'm just trying to think of so the legislation would create the CESAs and whose members of the CESAs, but it would be possible to get some facilitation and conversation is going to be for the CESAs actually up and running, what is you're saying, right? Yes. Maybe.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: Maybe. We've got to have money. Got to have an entity to manage that. We're really carrying facilitators, like a CESA.
[Unidentified Member]: So I was specifically thinking about the executive director and where that funding was coming from. It says in the language that the executive director shall be hired by CISA. So that's not the agency of education that's localized?
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: So this is one of the issues that we have to think about. We say that, yes, CESAs are generally in the world that we are envisioning funded by the member districts.
[Unidentified Member]: Okay. Because I want to make sure it's not a politicized position that they're actually working for the agency of education.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: No, no,
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: That's not envisioned at all. I would just say, while I think the cost is low, it is not funded mandate, unless we fund it. And I would just remind us that mandating newer, bigger districts and all of that comes with many costs as well. So there's going to be costs, whatever path we were to ever be able to go down. There could be costs. We may need some numbers fast because we got a crossover issue with the budget. The study committee costs in 'forty six were 15,000. It's what was because the grant was 150. If you passed it,
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: you got the 100 later. We got 50 up front. And that was just
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: back then. That was quite a long time ago. So I'm concerned about the costs. For sure. So member districts
[Robert Hunter (Member)]: pay in CSOG, right? So right. So they already have to pay for a director and all that. Is it possible that we propose state based the first year directors just for the first year, and after that, districts all kick in figure it out.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: I think we can close whatever we want, but finding the money for that, like, in the next twenty four hours might be I was just thinking about
[Robert Hunter (Member)]: what you said about an unfunded mandate and, you know, if we're gonna throw this down.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: I am gonna say we can either continue talking. We do not have legislative council agree with us or we can go over the outline legislative council gave us, do some thinking and then come back. If we finish on the floor by four, maybe let's all come back here. We won't necessarily do stuff, but we should at least come back and see where we are on some things.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: I have to leave there by 04:30 tonight, whether we're off the floor or not, because I have a 06:00 Zoom meeting I have to be in position for. I have to be able to travel home and sign up for travel with dad. So I'm leaving at 04:30.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: Are you with us tomorrow?
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: Yeah. But are we gonna meet to vote before the floor? Because my brother's gonna come cover for me so I can leave Vermont Pulea. We will need to vote for The amendment. Yeah. Because we're delaying unless we delay it two legislative days to next Tuesday.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: I would say for fear that the
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: less I'm gonna get it done for you.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: To 25.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: So this week would be good. Fine. I just kinda need to know what time to be here so I can tell him what time to believe me to get over. So if we were to meet at
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: nine Yeah, right. So we should tentatively plan to meet as a committee at nine tomorrow with a realistic goal of starting the cameras at 09:15. Okay. I will
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: plan to be here right now.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: Alright. Please use your time diligently, and we are adjourned until post floor.
[Beth Quimby (Member)]: I thought we had something at 11:30.
[Unidentified Member]: Oh, no. No. We're looking over this.
[Peter Conlon (Chair)]: No. No. We have testimony at 11:30. Thank you.