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[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Good evening. This is the House Appropriations Committee. It is still Thursday, 03/19/2026. It is 06:04PM, so we have moved from morning to evening. And we are going to take up three more bills so we can move them along and let other people can deal with them. So we have Ellen from legislative council to talk about two of the three bills. And as I have mentioned before, in all three bills, we are taking the money out and then voting on it without the money. And then it will go to the floor and off of the Senate. So that's our role today. So the first one is seven eighteen, an accolating to building energy efficiency. And it's been a while since we've heard it, so I imagine people don't remember it if you could give us a couple of sentences about it and then tell us how we're changing it.

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: I'm going to check out the Office of Legislative Council. Page seven eighteen is an act related to building energy efficiency. This is you may remember Representative Campbell was in here. This is a bill about how the building energy codes are lacking some enforcement. So there's a few different mechanisms in here on how to encourage additional adoption of the energy codes. There is a task force in this bill that would be advising OPR on how to improve the contractor registry website. Other elements of the bill relate to giving municipalities authority to adopt the residential and commercial building energy codes as part of their code. There's also a safe harbor provision related to the governor's executive order on those codes. But the part that's most relevant to this committee and I'm happy to go into further detail the part that's most relevant is there were two appropriations in this. One of them was to have the Department of Public Service to give additional technical support to municipalities who want to update their bylaws to adopt the codes. The other was for the Office of Professional Regulation to start this Residential Contractor Registry Task Force to assist them and advise them on the contractor registry. So the amendment that you have today is draft 1.1. It's posted under my name. Timestamp is 05:50 ish. And so all that this amendment does is strike out the appropriations section and replace it with this language. Section 13 would be contingency of funding. So, the duty to implement the Residential Contractor Registry Task Force described in Section three of this act is contingent upon an appropriation of funds in fiscal year twenty twenty seven from the General Fund to the Office of Professional Regulation for that purpose.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: So Ellen, that is great, except it doesn't seem to address the first appropriation of $200,000 So

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: I didn't If you do not appropriate funds for that, the work will probably happen on its own. It doesn't impede the policy. So the policy in the bill is that towns now have clear authority to update their bylaws to include these things. The appropriation was to give the department additional funding so they could support towns in doing this. If you don't give the department that funding, towns can

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: still write out. But it doesn't say in here that we're not giving them the funding. It strikes the funding. It only struck the funding for the registry task force that I can see, the way it's written. I'm not interpreting that as DPS isn't getting any funding either. So I struck the entirety of Section 13. You did? I did. Oh, I see. So I'm missing the first paragraph. I'm sorry. Went right the new 13. Striking out section 13 in its entirety. Thank you. That's what I would love to know.

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: And if you would like I wasn't sure if you wanted to say something about that other funding, but it's not required for the policy.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Right. Okay. I understand it now. It's late. I'm sorry. Does everybody understand what we're doing here? Is it Okay? Think as long as it accomplishes what we're hoping it accomplish, which it sounds like it never does since you've read the whole thing. Liz? No money. No money. Section 13 is struck out entirely. And there won't be any contractor registry, task force, or any of that unless somebody puts money back in. But it's not coming from us.

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: Don't we already have a registry contractor?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yes. I'm sorry. That's the limit. Sorry, what this does.

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: You have 15 members on the committee.

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: There is concern that the contractor registry exists. The website is very basic and rudimentary. This would be a task force to advise on how to make it more user friendly and what features should be added, as well as whether or not a different entity should host. So it's more about the contactor registry website task force probably would have done a better full title. There are 15 members on it.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: But it's not there anymore. Okay. Do we have

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: any other questions? Three is taken out as well? No. Section three stays.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Section three stays, but it's expected to

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: be to implement it. There's contingent on funding. Right.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Are we good with this, folks? Are we okay? Are we ready to vote? So we'll vote on the amendment first and then the bill is amended. Accept a motion to approve draft 1.1 for age seven eighteen. So moved. Okay, or second? Second. Okay. Any further discussion on the amendment? Hearing none, the clerk is ready.

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: Please call the roll.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Bluemle? Yes. Representative Dickinson?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: No.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Sorry?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: No.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Feltus? Yes. Representative Kascenska? Yes. Representative Baroque? Yes. Representative Mrowicki? Yes. Representative Nigro? Yes. Representative Swirrell, yes. Representative Stevens? Yes. Representative Yacovone? Yes. And representative? Yes. Ten one.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: I'll accept the motion to approve eightseventeen as amended by Committee on Energy and further amended by House Appropriations. So moved. Thank you. Second. Second, John. Thank you. Any further discussion? Yes.

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: Did we just vote on the amendment or the bill? The amendment. Okay.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: So you voted no against taking the money out Can of

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: I change my vote? Yes. I want to vote yes on the amendment.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Okay. Eleven-zero-zero on the amendment. Now, this is the bill as amended. Any further discussion on the bill as amended? Seeing none, the Clerk of the Rolls. Representative

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Bluemle? Yes. Representative Dickinson?

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: No.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Feltus? No. Representative Feltus? Yes. Representative Brooks? No. Representative Mrowicki? Yes. Representative Nigro? Yes. Representative Squirrell, yes. Representative Stevens? Yes. Representative Yacovone? Yes. Representative Chittenden?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yes.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Nine twenty.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Okay. And for some reason, I have John actually as the person for this one.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Education? I

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: think I did that because it was the Department of Public Service. Service. Is that him or he? Me. Public Service.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: This is going to John.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: This is going to John. Okay. It could also have gone to Mike or Ricky, because there's also OPR, but the first one was DPS, so we'll do that. Thank you, John.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: You're welcome.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: The next one is H740. This was the Greenhouse Gas Inventory and Registry. And again, similar, we're going to take the money out and pass it along. So, this should be on our committee page also.

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: Yes, also draft 1.1. And

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: so the funding in this bill is being removed. That

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: is the language in section three that's being struck. I amended section two to also reference the contingency of funding. So section two is the rulemaking provision. So section one gives them the statutory authority to adopt these rules about specific greenhouse gas reporting. And then Section two is the session law provision about the deadline for the rulemaking. So Section two is being added to say, Contingent upon appropriation of funds in fiscal year 2027 for this purpose. On or before 07/01/2027, the Secretary of Natural Resources shall adopt final rules for greenhouse gas reporting as required in 10 BSA five eighty two(two). The duty to create a database for the reporting of data is also contingent upon an appropriation of funds.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Wayne, go ahead.

[Wayne Laroche (Member)]: ANR's rulemaking authority doesn't already cover this?

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: ANR has a number of sources of rulemaking authority in the air quality realm. And I think they could make an argument that they have some authority to do this. However, they wanted specific statutory authority to be very clear about what the rules should cover and the details. So in section one, there is specificity that it needs to cover the type of volumes and then also the location as well.

[Wayne Laroche (Member)]: They're passing the buck to make sure

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: we approve of what they could do to the

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: I think CYA comes to mind, but I think any time you're dealing with a sensitive legal topic, having clear statutory authority is a good idea.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Any other questions on this? Are we clear on what we're doing in this case?

[Wayne Laroche (Member)]: And this is the same one where the treasurer is collecting the data. Right?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: No. This is all ANR. It's all all ANR. Different. Okay, so I'll have to make a motion to approve Amendment FAT 1.1 for H740. Thank you, Tom. Second? Yes. Thank you, Tiff. Any further discussion? Hearing none, clerk can call the roll when he is ready. This is on the amendment, and then we be Bill's head. Thank you. Go ahead.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Bluemle?

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Yes.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Dickinson?

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Yes.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Feltus? Yes. Representative Kascenska? Yes. Representative Laroche? Yes. Representative Mike? Yes. Representative Michael? Michael? Steven? Yes. Representative Yacovone? Yes. And Representative Chen? Yes. That's eleven-zero. And

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: so now have a motion to approve age seven forty as amended by the House of Community on Energy and further amended by House of Appropriations? You got it. Is there somebody to make that motion? So moved. Thank you. Second? Second. Thank you. Seeing no further discussion, the clerk call the roll on the bill as amended by us.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Bluemle? Yes. Representative Dickinson?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: No.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Feltus? No. Representative Kascenska? Yes. Representative Laroche? No. Senator Mrowicki? Yes. Representative Nigro? Yes. Representative Squirrell? Yes. Representative Stevens? Yes. Representative Yacovone? Yes. Representative

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Shine? Yes.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: 830.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Thank you very much. Thank you, Eileen, for coming in and doing this last minute of your night. We appreciate it. So, Trevor, that one's yours.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: That's all.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yeah. And then the last one is the 61, an accolade to establishing an Americans with Disabilities Act Coordinator. We heard this yesterday. We had conversation about it. And there was money to create a position. I had asked for an amendment already from, it must have been Katie. And change was the section two, the effective date. This act shall take effect 07/01/2026, provided that the sum of $150,000 has been appropriated in the FY27 budget. So, it doesn't go into effect unless there's any funding. Are we clear on that one? Okay, so I would entertain a motion to approve the draft 1.1 of our amendment.

[Wayne Laroche (Member)]: I think it's the train.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Right now we're just doing the amendment. You can talk about that when we do the bill as amended. Is there any Anybody want to vote on doing the amendment? I'll see you second. Is there a second on the amendment?

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Yes.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Thank you. So Wayne and then

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Sorry.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Wayne and Tom, the amendment. I'm not seeing further conversation on the amendment, so let's take a vote when you're ready.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Windham? Yes. Representative Dickinson? No. Representative Feltus? Yes. Representative Kascenska? Yes. Representative Laroche? Yes. Representative Mrowicki? Yes. Representative Nigro? Yes. Representative Squirrell, yes. Representative Stevens? Yes. Representative Yacovone? Yes.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yes. That was just on the amendment, not the bill. One second.

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: Yeah. Yeah. I decided I was

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: gonna vote on that. Okay. That's fine. Just wanna be be sure you were clear. Consistent, sorry. Perfectly fine. We'll look

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: up in 07/01/2016.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: All I'm asking is making sure everybody knows. All right. So that was 10/10. And I'll take a motion for the bill as amended by general and housing and further amended by appropriations. Can I ask

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: a question? Yes. You said with no funding, this wouldn't even go to effect.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Can I hear you? That's right.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Okay.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: That's right.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: So is there a motion to, approve the bill as amended by House Supervisor? Second? Yes. Okay, thank you. Any further discussion?

[Wayne Laroche (Member)]: Again, I think that there's all kinds of work being done at the agency and has been for many, many, many years. And this position is not in the right place to do this job. And it's likely, given the diversity of things across state government, I think it's more apt to be either a do nothing job or cause more harm than good. Cause it's going to take a lot of people's time. If they're already doing the work and then they have to check back in and do something with this person, it's going to be more work and more expenditure to try to do something that maybe somebody doesn't even know how

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: to do it. So So voting yes, Thomas, doesn't even to do anything?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Voting yes will get the bill out of this committee and onto the floor. And then the floor will vote, and depending upon how they vote, it will go to the senate. If we vote no in this committee, the note stays on our wall. So those are yeah, Lynn?

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: Yeah, I am concerned about the section that talks about the only hiring these candidates presented by the they call it unique. It's really odd. This is going to be an administrative position, and this just doesn't make any sense to have all these advocacy groups that are going to be making, you know, I just don't like the whole structure. I'm sorry.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: I understand. Tiffany, and then Dave? Yeah, I guess I just want to say that I was really concerned to learn that we have not really revised our ADA policies since 2014. And that's why not? Because we don't have anybody that is actually of herding the sheep and learning from best practice and from other states.

[Tiffany Bluemle (Ranking Member)]: It's been left to individual departments, and therefore I think that the application of the ADA is very uneven across the state. And I strongly support the need for this position. And I know we're worried about

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: the impact on the budget. So, I'll just leave it at that time. Think

[David Yacovone (Member)]: the bill needs significant improvements. The cause is important enough though in my mind that if it gets in the Senate and somebody gives attention that they'll rehabilitate it. Yeah. And I'll get another bite at the apple. I know that may sound irresponsible, but I think that's where I land on it. There's structural problems, I get that.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yeah, and I agree, I think this has the potential to be a much better bill than it is. Yes, and

[David Yacovone (Member)]: I'm hoping that it will become that.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yes, and that's what I'm hoping to. Is that enough?

[Wayne Laroche (Member)]: Okay. Wayne? No, just counter to this argument because they didn't take any testimony from any the agencies.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: That's part of making it a better bill. Part of the making it better. Yeah.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Sorry, I didn't mean to hear.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: I think it's a lot that we're actually very much in agreement.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: I think we're in agreement.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Needs significant. Yeah. It just needs more input to make it look like it. Well, just making it look like it's gonna work. And checking with the agency to see what they're actually doing in terms of That's one of my questions was, you know, so who receives an updated immigration from ADA and really hear a best answer to that. So you just didn't know what's going on with that. It would have been nice. It's too bad it didn't come to us like way earlier in the game so we had more Well,

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: the committee could have spent more time on testing. I think that's where

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: we all kind of Yeah, there's nothing to have to be a reporter here.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: So it's a learning experience. Marty, you might comment as the same. I think it needs a lot more work and I worry that it might go to the Senate and they might not improve it. There's that too. That's In a rush to get something done, they'll get it out the door without having done enough homework. Sure, understood.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: I think I'd rather have it stayed here and just do more work on this. It's gonna take some time.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yeah, Totally understood. Alright. I think everybody said what needs to be said. And why don't we take perch to call the roll on the bill as amended by us?

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Representative Bloomley? Yes. Representative Dickinson? No. Representative Feltus? No. Representative Kascenska? No. Representative Laroche? Representative Mrowicki? Yes. Representative Nigro? Yes. Representative Squirrell? Yes. Representative Stevens? Yes. Representative Yacovone? Yes. Representative Shai? Yes. Seven four.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Hopefully some good comments that people will take to heart. So appreciate all of Oh, your don't know, who does have this? It has to be somebody who voted yes on the bill.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: I could change my vote. Right,

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: but if you don't vote on it, who would like to take this bill? Do you

[David Yacovone (Member)]: want me to

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: this have three

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: more counties. Well, thank you, Tom.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: I'm sitting here on the on deck circle just waiting for a chat. Okay, thank you, Tom. Okay, thanks Tom.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Thank you all, that's three more bills off our wall. Let me tell you a little bit about tomorrow. We've gotten a lot of work done today. It's been great. We are in good shape. Crossed some big bridges today. That's been really helpful. We still have a few more bills to go after, so we're going to start doing some bills tomorrow. We are, I think, the proud possessors of the T bill. So we're going start at 08:00 tomorrow morning, and we're to hear the transportation bill. Chris promises it's only going to be about half an hour. There's just a little bit of us. We do not need to go. Sorry, John, but we will not be the whole transportation broker.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: That's perfectly fine. Is that okay? Have So

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Lynn, what's your bill? The treasurer's bill? 6. Where was that? 567. 577. Check the agenda tonight. 567 is the omnibus one. The treasurer's one.

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: Yes. That's what we're doing. The best one's going

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: to be memocized. Yes. So we're putting some amendments on that bill. For one thing, we've taken out the $75,000 for the amortization task force. So that doesn't need to be in there because it's going to be in the budget. And Lynn has a couple of other recommendations. So we'll take a look at that in the morning as well. So we're going to have to pass out all the other bills.

[Eileen Dickinson (Member)]: I don't think I have the rest of it.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: So what we need to do is one's fine. Okay. So let me just go through what you see if I'm missing any. The treasure omnibus, that's the one we just talked about. We're gonna vote in the morning. Is that really five, is that five, six, No, five, seven, seven. Actually already passed out today. We have six fifty seven, the unaccompanied homeless youth services. We need to I don't know what's happening with tenant landlord, but we have already reserved the rental arrears. If it doesn't go anywhere, that's been accounted for. The ADA. We have the emergency management omnibus bill that Marty's working on. We have Theresa's homelessness response. And we have miscellaneous tax. Did I miss anything? We have the T bill and the yield bill. We did the T bill. We're going have the yield bill that's coming over the weights and means. And what's the number of the yield bill?

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: 949.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Okay, And the T bill is, I brought that down with you, 944. Yes. So, 1234567, possibly eight is what I'm thinking it's going be, something like that. So we'll sprinkle them in. After we do as many bills as we can do in the morning, the next thing on the list is going to be Grady talking about the language. We are going to start with the governor's recommended language. And then he's got a bunch of other language from all the things that we've been talking about. And so we'll go over those. And then Emily, James, and whoever else will do the numbers. Emily will start with the numbers after that. And I know we'll have other stuff. They'll probably be more, Oh, we forgot this language. Oh, we forgot that. But I'm sensing from joint physical guests that

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: we seem to be in pretty good shape of what she says, yeah.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: So I wanted us to start early so that hopefully we will end this time.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: What did you say?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: I'm hoping to start, that by starting early, we will not end as late. I still wouldn't be ready to Still hold my room. I'd hold your room. You can still hold your room,

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: but maybe it won't be No worries.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: I planned on that.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: I have to

[Wayne Laroche (Member)]: buy some

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Nodos. Coffee. And I'm sure the speaker's office helps out with some dinner stuff too, so we can bring snacks and we'll have some of that. But I think we're ahead of where we've been in the past. Think Feels we that way. Yeah. So it's getting through the bills. Tip and then Trevor. Is it alright? Did you sign us anymore free? We need bills. Well, yes. But anything else? There anything else that I mean I I I have your sheet.

[Tiffany Bluemle (Ranking Member)]: I have a bunch of language to know that, anyway.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: I just want to You want to be as ready as possible. Yeah. But your

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: teacher, I'm you can just afraid that there is something I am forgetting to

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: do. I'm worried that I'm forgetting something. So I look at JFO and nobody over there is tearing their hair out. Brains hair still looks in place. That's how I tell. So I think we're good.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Our process, which is different toward the end here. Yeah. It wasn't quite like last year, had this, like, target. We're trying to figure out what to do with the last.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Right, it's a different year. Available. Yeah, the money's different this year. And the money's gonna be different next year. So we did a similar process.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: It was simple, but it would

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: just- So everybody's involved, but yeah, just we have to be flexible and see how it all happens each year. Who knows how many bills you're gonna have at any given time. This is the end of the biennium. So we're more likely to have more bills this year because people want their bills to fix Yeah. Trevor, you have a question?

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Yeah, just a comment with folks. Bob, John, you'll get an email from me. Before you leave, you need to get that to Nigel. I know there's another one coming, some one down, but I'll get that back. And Mike, yours, I never got anything back from Nigel, so I'm checking on everything.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Make sure you all respond before you leave tonight. And then the rest will be for tomorrow. So, I'm going to work with JFO and take a first crack at looking at the language that they have and see if we've missed anything that'll make it more efficient for tomorrow. That's where I'm going next. And you all are done. You're dismissed. But if you've got, I'm worried, I'm concerned about making sure that we got, I know you're on it, but that's one of the big bills. I know. The homelessness one is one of the big bills. The omnibus we have going, but we have those two in particular that I want to be sure we get everything right. That's what we got. So read up on whatever. I was told by Nolan, Teresa came in and the numbers weren't adding up. That was today, right? Yes. And they add up now. They add up now. They're exactly matching the governor's numbers, so we don't have

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: to worry about that. So

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: we can go through that and take care of that. All right, anybody have anything else they want to say? Rest up. Dave, you look like you want to say something.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Well, I've been struggling on my flu report. Was working on it last weekend, and it's not coming along. There's so much, you know, if, I have a feeling that if I'm in the house and pick a budget, the members are gonna wanna know what did the governor cut? I have to tell them all that, I think. And then what did we restore? I gotta tell them that.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: If there's a question about that.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: If there's a question about what?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Of either of those. Well, don't you have to report

[David Yacovone (Member)]: it whether they ask or not?

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: If I don't, I don't have much of a report. You what?

[David Yacovone (Member)]: It's okay. And you always

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: you and Tiff always have sort of the biggest report. So you'll get and I told help you with your report.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Yeah. I know, but I feel guilty about that.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: You should

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: not feel guilty about it.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: I'll figure it out somehow.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: We will figure this out

[David Yacovone (Member)]: together. Coming into focus.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Alright. We'll we'll talk about it. I haven't started mine. So It's kinda hard because sometimes it's hard to start until you know what's there. But we'll talk about that over the weekend. While joint fiscal is working badly on putting the actual pretty bill together, we can chat about what's happening with floor reports and order and all that. Well, think once we have spreadsheet that shows what the governor had and then what we have, then

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: you'll have something

[David Yacovone (Member)]: to that as a framework.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yeah, mean, if you feel it's necessary to say, well, the governor suggests this, but we're

[Ellen (Office of Legislative Counsel)]: going to suggest this instead.

[Tiffany Bluemle (Ranking Member)]: Well, can do that or

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: you can just say, because it's what we're suggesting.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: Well, if anybody's one time money, it's going to be a conversation that should give us a clue as to what did the government not fund

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: for the most part, for most of this list here. Right, right. So that becomes clear because we funded it. Right, but he had a bunch of one time swell. That's right. And that's actually thing. But yeah, one of the many scripts, but we'll have it all put together all nicely so we can look at it.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: I think reviewing the language would be helpful.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: Yes, doing the language would helpful. So that will be the first thing we're going to do in the morning. So I think it'll start to come together, Dave.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Yeah, I'm sure it will.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: I will definitely work with you

[David Yacovone (Member)]: to help

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: us whenever you need and joint fiscal will too. So we'll make sure everybody has what they need to do their budgets. Joint fiscal will have a highlight sheet by Tuesday, I hope. We'll do a conference. So one of the challenges is that the judicial retention is on Wednesday.

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Wednesday morning

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: before judicial retention. But we're going to do our office hours like we had last year in the well of the house where people can come and ask questions and join Facebook who will be with us to be the ones who actually answer all the questions. That's perfect. And we'll have spreadsheets and things that people can come and ask us questions there. That seemed to work really well because the talking level, people don't want to ask a question in front of everybody, but they really would like to know something and that will be good. And people liked that last year. So that'll be on Wednesday and then we'll be on the floor Thursday and Friday. As I told you all, at least most of you I hope, after we're all done on the floor, we're done for the day. On Friday. Yes.

[Trevor Squirrell (Clerk)]: So do you know how many that we have for

[David Yacovone (Member)]: judicial retention? There are six up

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: for judicial retention, is what I've been told. On Wednesday. So it'll be an hour and a half. And Then we'll get our paper ballots and then we'll vote and then we'll take a smog to count the votes. I've never been one of the tellers or whatever they call

[David Yacovone (Member)]: Oh, hope I never.

[Robin Scheu (Chair)]: 85 tomorrow morning, dressed up. We're almost there. We're on the home stretch. Great job today, everybody. Thank you. Let's go offline.