SmartTranscript of Senate Finance - 2025-03-14 - 2:45PM

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[Chair Ann Cummings]: Just wanted to be we are live. What did you have? We have We're [Vice Chair Thomas Chittenden]: we're I'm [Chair Ann Cummings]: trying to get this phone up. Right. Managing my Okay. We have three appointments Okay. Which we will get. What do [Member Christopher "Chris" Mattos]: you need from us on the appointments? [Chair Ann Cummings]: Do you need the actual sheets? I need the sheet. I need the reporter, and I need the boat back. Okay? All of the boats were six zeros one. One of them one of them. Still dies since I am one of those sport guaranteed. Five. [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: Five zero. [Chair Ann Cummings]: We'll see if you can. Star Wars. Yours is That occurs. I just did. Yeah. So senator Beck is David. Center. She's the what is it? Yeah. Okay. So SnyderVerse. I I'm gonna see one. I have two with my hand. [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: Oh, you mean shoulder blades. [Chair Ann Cummings]: And actually, she should have two appointment letters. Shoulders. Do you do you do you do that? We did both of them? We did three today. Oh, there's There there are two appointment letters for the show days. There was, like, February twenty fourth to twenty eighth, and then instead of March one, we talked on March, February, whatever it was. [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: But Oh, for I'd [Chair Ann Cummings]: say it has to be voted on. Separately. I think it's voted on separately. It's If [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: just one could be passed today. [Chair Ann Cummings]: If you give me just the second one, if you just voted on the second appointment letter, that's fine. [Member Christopher "Chris" Mattos]: Yeah. That's fine. [Chair Ann Cummings]: The one going forward. Okay. March one twenty five to Okay. Twenty. If you need more than that Let's see. I want to vote in, like, thirty seconds. That we have to call them. That'll I think that'll probably be okay. Okay. If something changes, I don't think you're gonna do these on Monday. Am I right? Probably not. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. And do you have sales or that's anything? We are about to vote on s fifty one. S fifty one. Okay. So I'll let you guys get to it as I can. The first thing I need is a motion to amend as presented in draft one point four dated three twelve twenty five at three twenty seven Centimeters that changed the amount from twenty five hundred to a thousand. It put in the twenty dollar ramp down for every thousand increase in salary over the limit. And so, I guess, it changed the wording around getting the doctor's Yep. Certificate about an about you need ADL assistance. Yes. [Member Christopher "Chris" Mattos]: They made it tighten that up [Chair Ann Cummings]: a little. Tighten that one up a little. Okay. Martin. Martin don't move because you said it so nicely. Yeah. Okay. Further discussion about the med. [Member Christopher "Chris" Mattos]: I just wanted to add one thing that that Meg Paulette from the Alzheimer's Association and I were talking about. She got some additional data that I have sent to to Patrick this morning about the fact that a lot of people who are in that universe Yeah. The original seventy thousand universe and probably in the sixty three hundred universe are may not have a diagnosis. And the bill does require that they have a diagnosis, so that might narrow it anymore. So I haven't had a chance to talk to him yet about it, but [Chair Ann Cummings]: it may that might help. Yeah. Well, he's got another stop. Yeah. And if we find that we get twenty people who apply, it's easier to expand criteria than contract them. Yeah. So this is a foot in the door. You can always move it. Yeah. So Okay. So Senator Gulick has moved that reinvent. I don't No. Alright. I'm just I'm just I'm not gonna call the poll. I'm going to say, all those in favor, say aye. Aye. Alright. Opposed, say no. [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: You were all that talking about? [Chair Ann Cummings]: I'm calling this Oh, no. [Vice Chair Thomas Chittenden]: Just for the amendment. [Chair Ann Cummings]: This Oh, yeah. Amendment. Yeah. This is six zero one. Now I need a motion to approve as amended. So moved. Senator Hardy has moved that we approved. Alright. That's fifty one as amended. I'll second. Okay. Senator Bullock is second. This time, we will call the rule. Discussion first. And we will have a discussion. [Vice Chair Thomas Chittenden]: Okay. So let's say two fifty. What what? [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: Go to work. [Vice Chair Thomas Chittenden]: We need to be called on for nothing. You want senator Matos from me. My apologies. [Chair Ann Cummings]: Oh, I've I've got you on discussion. [Vice Chair Thomas Chittenden]: I did. That's Yeah. [Chair Ann Cummings]: I'm waiting to [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: be called on. [Chair Ann Cummings]: Oh. There's [Member Christopher "Chris" Mattos]: A light young man. [Chair Ann Cummings]: Yes. That's fine. I just I I got you were communicating with hand signals. So we just Friday afternoon. But I spend the morning immersed in health. [Vice Chair Thomas Chittenden]: Well, I'll just say one thing. I'm gonna vote for this, but I I do I am skeptical of the progress in the light of the backdrop with all the uncertainty that this is going to be a a big ask in the budget discussion going forward. But it's a very worthy cause, and I think if anything, I'm going to ask to continue this conversation throughout this building because this this population needs our support in many ways. So that's where I am. I [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: was gonna piggyback that same exact thought. You know, I think the the cause is very worthy. I do worry about the amount of money and what it is or isn't, how much it's gonna be. Appreciate the ratcheting down that amendment to bring to a thousand PM to write down and having the doctors and helping and such. And, you know, I hope it opens up a future conversation to other exemptions in our tax policy and things of that nature. I know we have Bill coming over from the house with some of the governor's ideas, and I hope we can add to that in this room. So I'm gonna vote yes as well. Okay. [Chair Ann Cummings]: Okay. [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: Now on. [Chair Ann Cummings]: Further discussion. Yeah. So I'm gonna call the roll over. [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: Senator Beck? [Vice Chair Thomas Chittenden]: Yes. Senator Gould? [Member Christopher "Chris" Mattos]: Yes. [Member Martine Larocque Gulick]: Senator Chapman? Yes. Senator Maddox? Yes. Senator Hardy? Yes. Senator Brock? Senator Cummings. [Chair Ann Cummings]: Yes. Still have a camera. You're right, MIA. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate it. I assume Thank you. Senator Hardy will be in the reporters, and we'll take it upstairs. [Member Christopher "Chris" Mattos]: Yes. We'll do. Okay. [Chair Ann Cummings]: I don't know how we're getting out of here. This out of [Vice Chair Thomas Chittenden]: too. I hope you're not. [Chair Ann Cummings]: So awesome. So that is all I have on the agenda, so you could go outside.
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